Monday, March 15, 2010

Tradition, tradition! (Part 5) — Shtreimels

I guess shtreimels were indeed the hats of Polish nobility:



Of course, when your scenery looks like this —



— there is a reason to wear a warm woolly hat. And wearing it was a sign of nobility, because a hat like this cost a good amount of money. (Above pictures from some 17th century Polish footage.)

On the other hand, in this weather...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3582/3637724436_15c7d2be72.jpg

...perhaps such clothes would be more appropriate:



I refer you to my earlier post about traditions (see part 2).

(It is well known that the Lubavitcher Rebbeim did not wear a shtreimel outside of Lubavitch. I suppose the climate in Crimea or Carlsbad was much softer...)

15 comments:

Just like a guy said...

Softer?

Anarchist Chossid said...

Less harsh? Warmer? More Californian?

Just like a guy said...

Ahh.

e said...

it's especially silly when you see non-hasidic sefardim in Israel wearing clothes that are based on 1940s American style.

Anarchist Chossid said...

Like this? http://www.paperdollreview.com/catalog/images/family1940s.jpg

e said...

the adult men and the young girl=spot on.
the young guy=not at all
the women=yeah, kinda sorta.

Anarchist Chossid said...

It would be quite interesting if the Chareidim dressed like the young guy.

(Btw, did you mean non-chassidic chareidim?)

e said...

I meant non-hasidic sefardim. It's especially silly when the sefardim do it. An ashkenazi, nu at least he is dressing at least somewhat like his forebears did. A hasid, nu, at least he's dressing like his group. But if you're not hasidic and your not european, why the hell are you wearing those clothes?

Anarchist Chossid said...

Forgive my ignorance, but are there chassidic sefardim? (This is not me picking on the language; I really don’t know.)

Anarchist Chossid said...

Re: wearing clothes: perhaps because there is less stigma against dressing as a member of Polish nobility from 17th century (or as a businessman from the 40’s) than against dressing as a member of Arab nobility.

e said...

CA: in israel, certainly. Unless you don't count breslov and lubavitch as chasidim. In which case a hasidic sefardi might be a bit hard to find.

Just like a guy said...

I believe Satmar has a contingency.

Anarchist Chossid said...

You mean sefardim who have “converted” into Lubavitch/Breslov/Satmar?

Just like a guy said...

I do, at any rate.

e said...

nor vos den? Sefardim who have been chassidm since the days of the Baal Shem Tov but whose forebears dressed like arabs?