Tuesday, January 26, 2010

What is it like to be a bat

In the famous proof that consciousness cannot be material, Thomas Nagel asks a question: “What is it like to be a bat?” The essence of the proof is that even if one were to study and know every single aspect of the bat’s nervous system, one would still not know what it is like to be a bat — to have an experience of being a bat. (The bat is used to make the example more stark. Bats use echolocation to navigate in space. In other words, bats “see” through their hearing.)

So, if you know everything about the system which is physical but still don’t know X (which is part of the system), then X must be not physical. In this case, X is consciousness.

This is a good example of what it is like to know English well enough to understand many (maybe most) words in a text, and have a lot of words sound familiar, but still not to understand what the text is saying:
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This is what a game of baseball looks like to a foreigner:

7 comments:

e said...

As a native English speaker, I also didn't understand that piece.

Who would have thunk that snooker players dress so formally? Maybe if football players wore vests and bowties they would behave more like mentchen.

Anarchist Chossid said...

Chabad bochrim in 770 dress in suits and behave like vilde chayes.

Anarchist Chossid said...

The thing is: I could actually see myself becoming interested in snooker, if I learned the rules, etc.

I cannot see myself becoming interested in baseball. It must be that I dislike American culture. Too zhlobesque for me.

e said...

If chabad bochurim not only wore suits but also ironed and tucked in their shirts and polished their shoes...

Anarchist Chossid said...

Then they would be snags.

e said...

is that the only difference between our bochurim and snags?

Anarchist Chossid said...

No, but it’s a symptom of a number of other things.