Tuesday, May 4, 2010

Stephen Fry on Catholic Church

I genuinely believe that the Catholic Church is not — to put it at its mildest — a force for good in the world.

— Stephen Fry



Now, many people will say that many things that he says apply to any religion — or to all religions, to the idea of religion in general. Perhaps there is some truth in that. It is a complicated question, with many nuances, from rational and logical to emotional. I do believe that Judaism stands out amongst all religions, both objectively and subjectively, and this is not so much a belief for me as knowledge. To a certain point, Judaism, the way I see it, is not a religion at all. But all this is not what matters at the moment.

Nor do I agree with Mr. Fry on many of his ideas (one could say probably most of his ideas). But that does not matter either.

What does matter to me personally, in the context of this topic, is that today, as far as I am concerned, such religions as Islam and Catholic Christianity are both false and evil. Incomparably to most other religions. They are false in theory, and they are evil in practice. And I see no possibility of religious or intellectual tolerance to the ideas and practices of these monstrosities. Nor, in my opinion, should anyone else.

Update: After having been sent by TRS a video of Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry discussing Ten Commandments, I want to clarify that I believe now and have always believed that most atheists (especially the liberal ones) don’t know what they are talking about when discussing religion. I only found the above video interesting, because it attacks Catholicism for the apparent and obviously stupid and evil things that it says and does.

And if you tell me it is not fair, well, sometimes things are true and proper and not fair. For instance, it is only fair to allow Iran to have nuclear weapons. If US, and Israel, and Pakistan have it, why not Iran? Unfair! Yes, true. But because a Muslim homicidal maniac is in charge of the country ruled by a bunch of Mulsim anti-semitic homicidal maniacs, it makes sense for the leaders of the free world (strictly speaking, that’s just the governor of New Hampshire, but I am using a more conventional definition here) to take all efforts to make this unfair thing happen.

(By the way, another thing that liberal atheists — Stephen Fry amongst them — have no idea what they are talking about is Israel.)

14 comments:

Just like a guy said...

That's rather harsh of you.

Anarchist Chossid said...

Which part?

Just like a guy said...

The last bit.

Anarchist Chossid said...

You find yourself in disagreement with me and in agreement with certain people smarter and more religious than me. Alas, I keep to my opinion.

Just like a guy said...

Who do I find myself in agreement with, and why am I disagreeing with you?

Anarchist Chossid said...

Whom*

I am not at liberty to say or discuss.

I have no idea why you’re disagreeing with me. Presumably because your opinion genuinely differs from mine (but even then, why would it do such an irrational thing?), but perhaps you’re just doing it for kicks.

Just like a guy said...

In fact, I never said that I disagreed with you, I only said that your words were quite harsh. Killing Amalek is also quite harsh, but that doesn't mean it's not true.

Anarchist Chossid said...

Oh, quite.

Anarchist Chossid said...

Also, see my update to this post.

Just like a guy said...

Do you have a link to Stephen Fry's views on Israel?

Anarchist Chossid said...

Give me a moment.

Just like a guy said...

Thank you most kindly.

Anarchist Chossid said...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/30/israelandthepalestinians

Just like a guy said...

Well, there you are then.